A top editor at Lean In, the non-profit offshoot of Facebook COO Sheryl Sandberg’s book about empowering women to achieve their goals, has come under fire for seeking an unpaid intern.
And though many online questioned the ethics of the position, it likely would have been legal for the non-profit to do so.
Jessica Bennett, Lean In’s editor-at-large, posted on Facebook Wednesday: “Wanted: editorial intern, to work with our editor (me) in New York. Part-time, unpaid, must be HIGHLY organized with editorial and social chops and able to commit to a regular schedule through end of year. Design and web skills a plus! HIT ME UP. Start date ASAP.”
The public was less than pleased. Noting that the unpaid position seemed to conflict with the organization’s mission to help women “pursue their ambitions,” over 200 people replied to Bennett’s post, the bulk of them saying the organization should pony up:
“By restricting it to those who can afford to have done all that and live in NYC without pay on a permanent position, you excluded an awful a lot of people, namely those with less possessions and women included. Your medium and behavior does not meet the message – and that is a tremendous shame.” – Sofia Diogo Mateius
“Unpaid work, be it internships for young women or volunteer positions for older moms, is exploitive. Shame on you lean in. Pay up.” – Michele Morris
“Have to agree, the message is, at best, mixed, here. What you are “offering” and what the organization supposedly stands for, stand in contrast.” – Shawn Eggers Gypsea
It’s worth noting that three-quarters of unpaid interns are women, according to a recent study.
But despite the online uproar, Lean In is likely not under any legal obligation to pay their interns—because Lean In is a non-profit, any unpaid interns would be deemed “generally permissible” under federal guidelines issued by the Department of Labor.
Within a few hours of her original post, Bennett clarified that she was indeed looking for a volunteer, not an unpaid intern. “Since I joined Lean In, many people have reached out asking if they can volunteer—and specifically, intern. This was MY post, looking for a volunteer to help me in New York. LOTS of nonprofits accept volunteers. This was NOT an official Lean In job posting. Sorry for the confusion.”
Lean In spokeswoman Andrea Saul also sent us a statement emphasizing that the opening was a volunteer position.
“LeanIn.Org, like many nonprofits, has enjoyed the participation of some part-time volunteers to help us advance our education and peer support programs,” Saul said.
LEAN IN PLEDGES TO ESTABLISH PAID INTERNSHIP PROGRAM
Late Thursday, Lean In president Rachel Thomas posted a statement on Facebook noting that while the organization has worked with volunteers in the past, the position in question “doesn’t fall within LeanIn.Org’s definition of ‘volunteer.'”
“As a startup, we haven’t had a formal internship program,” she continued. “Moving forward we plan to, and it will be paid.”
When asked what the difference is between an unpaid intern and a volunteer, professor of labor law David Yamada laughed. “If I had the answer to that, I could be a sitting federal judge.”
The difference between an unpaid intern and a volunteer at a non-profit is simply a complicated issue, Yamada said.
“I don’t think anyone thought about this when the law was being drafted. Internships weren’t a big deal in the 1930s when they were drafting this statute. Now the intern economy is raising questions that weren’t an issue before,” he said.